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Gary Rose Right, we're wrapping things up here but as ever you can watch the highlights from today's games on Match of the Day at 22: 25 GMT on BBC One and i Player and online. Goodbye! FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottingham Forest Phil Jones Former Manchester United defender on Sky Sports I think he's [Ruben Amorim] got a clear identity of how he wants to play, I think he's got a clear message of how he wants every individual player to be in possession, out of possession, that will take time. He's alluded to the fact that it will take time to implement his style and the way he wants to go about things. But I do think if you're going to concede goals like they have and set plays then they're going to find it increasingly difficult. Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Manchester United Manchester United striker Rasmus Hojlund speaking to Sky Sports: "Annoying goals of course, we need to do better, specifically on corners, we've conceded too much now but I'm sure we'll improve. "I think maybe the opponent was thinking [we lacked confidence at corners]. I think it's more about us being in a new position, new ideas, new set-piece coach, but we need to understand his ideas. "It's a lot to take in but we need to deal with it, we are Manchester Unted and we need to do better. "There's a lot of games left but it's not an ideal situation, but we need to try and stay positive. " Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Nottingham Forest Nottingham Forest boss Nuno Espirito Santo told Sky Sports: "We spend a lot of time on training ground practicing set-pieces "The only thing I think we should have done better was on counter-attacks, not the threats but finishing them off. The second half was about trying to close down the game. " On Chris Wood, who became Forest's all-time leading scorer in the Premier League: "We are very thankful we have Chris with us. It's his birthday today, 33, it means a lot to have him as an example to the young lads. "I'm very proud of the way we work together, build things together, from the owner to everyone else in the club. It's a moment to celebrate. But for me, I'm thinking about Aston Villa. " FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottingham Forest Phil Jones Former Manchester United defender on Sky Sports I'd like to give him [Andre Onana] some credit and say the ball deviated a little bit but it's hardly a knuckle ball. He should be saving it. FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottingham Forest Nottingham Forest Nottingham Forest boss Nuno Espirito Santo told BBC Sport: "Not many things to be upset about. the boys did amazing. Scoring in the first action makes everything different. After that we were good. "The belief of the players believing every action is important [is key to early goals]. The beginning of the second half was very good for us too. Compsure was good. The team is growing, improving. We still have things to address but it's nice. "A tough time is about trying to get the details right. First half we were organised but allowing United to break to the wide areas. It's about adjusting details. "It was a big ask for us to come to Manchester three days time after a tough game against City. The consistency of set-pieces gives you success. "It's very important always to bounce back after a bad result. We didn't have a bad performance against City. Fresh leg made a difference during the game. " On Chris Wood: "He's doing amazing. We're so glad to have him. It's never too late. " FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottingham Forest Phil Jones Former Manchester United defender on Sky Sports Nottingham Forest have done brilliantly this season. The way they set up when they go to the big teams, they did it at Liverpool, they really stifled them and closed the spaces down. It's not just about their defensive structure, they have the ability to carry a threat on the counter as well and they did that today. I think they were terrific. FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottingham Forest Izzy Christiansen Former England midfielder on BBC Radio 5 Live There were some fantastic goals, including from Bruno Fernandes to pull one back. Overall, what a performance from Nottingham Forest. They had real authority, real craft and guile, hard work, dedication and a plan. It's a brilliant result for them. Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Manchester United Man Utd boss Ruben Amorim speaking to Sky Sports: On substitutions: "Bruno [Fernandes] was too tired and I wanted [Mason] Mount to play that position of second midfielder who opens a bit on the left. "Josh [Zirkzee] plays with Rasmus [Hojllund] to have combinations, [Leny] Yoro goes off because we can't give him too many minutes. "We put Harry Maguire on because of set-pieces, to control more who was winning all the first balls, the only way to attack Nottingham was transitions, to try and win first and second balls. When Harry was on the pitch he won all the first balls. On a tough start to life at United: "It's not a surprise becaues we come in the middle of a lot of games. "It's really dissapointing for the fans, after so many times with dissapointment, but we are here to do a job and will continue doing the same things to imrpove the team. " Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Simon Stone BBC Sport's chief football news reporter at Old Trafford Manchester United sporting director Dan Ashworth just walked through the media room, heading from one part of the stadium to another. He kept his head down and didn't make eye contact with the journalists present. Ashworth and the other United executives have a lot of work in front of them over the next weeks and months. In an interview with the United We Stand fanzine that was on sale outside the ground today, co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe said United had become a 'mediocre' club. Today was a mediocre performance. #bbcfootball, text 81111 (UK only - standard rates apply) or Whats App 03301231826 Tom: A poor start for a new Manchester utd manager is actually giving me more hope that he can be the right man in the long term. No new manager bounce but he knows how much work he needs to put in Dan: Brilliant game of football. Goals, near misses, VAR not ruining the fun; just top entertainment. Fernandes being subbed off the main talking point for me; he was the best player United had out there and I thought he had another goal in him. FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottingham Forest Phil Jones Former Manchester United defender on Sky Sports When we're talking about set pieces I think we can be overanalytical these days and go into so much detail until we're almost blue in the face. Ultimately, go and attack the ball, be aggressive and get first contact on the ball. United didn't do that enough today. FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Manchester United Man Utd boss Ruben Amorim told BBC Sport: "Tough game. We started really bad, the first play we suffered a goal and then it's hard to try to fight. We then controlled the game and had a lot of situations. "We improved the movement in the last third. We managed to draw the game and then at half-time we were ready to go for the win and then started really bad. Two goals. Then we tried a lot of things with not a lot of quality. "We didn't have many situations to score. "Tough game in a tough moment but we have to continue the job. "This is a long journey. We are improving in some aspects. "We have to win games to help us improve the team. "We are in the start of something so big that we pay attention to every detail. We already know it's a big job so we have to continue. " FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Ruben Amorim has lost a home league match for the first time since February 2023, when he was in charge of Sporting CP (1-2 v FC Porto), having won each of his last 23 such games prior to today. He has also lost back-to-back top-flight matches for just the second time in his managerial career. Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Nottingham Forest Chris Wood on Forest scoring from a corner: "Everybody know the emphasis on set-pieces these days, it's huge, a big avenue for and against. We did well today. " On his goal: "Morgs [Gibbs-White] has put in a fantastic delivery, he's got quality the boy, it's just about finding areas to cause confusion. " FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottingham Forest Izzy Christiansen Former England midfielder on BBC Radio 5 Live What an absolutely brilliant game of football for the neutral. It was end-to-end, entertaining, goals, drama and excellent bits of play. It was thoroughly deserved from Nottingham Forest, that is them back to their best and back to the form we've seen this season already. Their players put in an absolute shift, especially in midfield with Elliot Anderson and Ryan Yates. Their fans are in heaven right now, the noise from their end is deafening. #bbcfootball, text 81111 (UK only - standard rates apply) or Whats App 03301231826 Alan: Doesn't matter how many managers you throw at United, if you don't have the players it's never going to get any better. Justin: Ugarte - no left foot, not good enough. Mason Mount is awful. Rashford is past it. Dalot is average at best. I'm not even a United fan but this is sad to watch. Tim: Even taking the Arsenal defeat as read, United are heading for 4 points from 9 under Amorim from Ipswich, Everton and Forest. Hardly a step change from Ten Hag. .. . FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest For Ruben Amorim it is perhaps a reminder of the work he has ahead to transform Manchester United. His Premier League record currently stands at P4 W1 D1 L2 FT: Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest Nottingham Forest fans are rightly savouring this famous win and will no doubt be celebrating long into the night. It has taken them a couple of seasons but they look a decent Premier League side now capable of taking games to the established bigger sides. Man Utd 2-3 Nottm Forest All over! A huge win for Nottingham Forest as they follow up a win at Anfield earlier this season with a win at Old Trafford. Meanwhile, it is back to back losses for Ruben Amorim. Forest have won back-to-back league matches against Manchester United for the first time since 1992, when Brian Clough and Sir Alex Ferguson were in the respective dugouts Nottingham Forest capitalised on Manchester United's defensive blunders to record their first win at Old Trafford in almost 30 years. Rasmus Hojlund replied to Nikola Milenkovic's early opener, but Ruben Amorim's home side were unable to get back level for a second time after they conceded twice in seven minutes at the start of the second half. United keeper Andre Onana was at fault for Forest's second goal, shaping to make a low save to his right when Morgan Gibbs-White shot from the edge of the area, only to be beaten to his left as the ball did not move as he thought. Onana and Matthijs de Ligt then let birthday boy Chris Wood's looping far-post header bounce between them, and Lisandro Martinez failed to react either as the ball ended up in the far corner. United skipper Bruno Fernandes reduced the arrears after 61 minutes, but despite making five changes the hosts were unable to force an equaliser. It means United have suffered successive Premier League defeats for the second time this season, with this setback following on from their midweek loss at Arsenal. Amorim has won only one of his four league games in charge as his side remain 13th. Their 19 points from 15 games is United's lowest tally at this stage of a season since 1986-87. Forest, in contrast, are up to fifth. Have your say on United's performance What did you make of Forest's display? This video can not be played 'Not many things to be upset about' - Nuno on defeating Man Utd Wood's header means he is now Forest's record Premier League scorer, overtaking Bryan Roy by moving to 25 in the competition. The New Zealand forward has certainly struck up a positive working relationship with manager Nuno Espirito Santo, taking his tally to 21 goals in 31 Premier League appearances under the Portuguese, including 13 in 16 matches away from the City Ground. "He's doing amazing. We're so glad to have him. It's never too late, " Nuno told Match of the Day after the win. He might have been able to celebrate his 33rd birthday even earlier in the game, but Wood was caught by surprise when Ola Aina's cross reached him at the far post and he stabbed wide. Yet Wood is having a superb season. Only superstar duo Mohamed Salah and Erling Haaland are ahead of him in the Premier League scoring stakes. And, having left Manchester City empty-handed on Wednesday after firing wide when he ran on to Kevin de Bruyne's wayward backpass, he was not going to return without reward from a second visit to the city. Major question marks will be asked of United's defence, with Onana, De Ligt and Martinez all having an opportunity to deal with Wood's header but failing to prevent it finding the net. The outcome from a United perspective was sadly predictable but for Forest, after their own patchy run of one win in four games, it was a welcome return to form that was celebrated long and loud by their travelling support at the final whistle. They had not won against United at Old Trafford since 17 December 1994 when Stan Collymore and Stuart Pearce scored their goals. This video can not be played Man Utd 'started really bad' - Amorin reacts to Forest defeat After the optimism that greeted Amorim's arrival last month, the reality of the task ahead of him has quickly become apparent. While individual errors cost United dear, the new head coach will be sorely disappointed about Forest's opener. United conceded two set-piece goals at Arsenal in midweek. Amorim expected an improvement here, yet within two minutes his side had conceded to Forest in exactly the same way. It was all so routine. Elliot Anderson sent his corner to the near post, Milenkovic had a wrestle with Martinez which left the Argentine static and stranded, and the Forest defender headed home. Amorim is realising set-pieces are major threats to his chances of making a success of the United job. Yet the major focus is bound to fall on Onana. The Cameroon international has been one of United's better performers this season, yet his failure to deal with Gibbs-White's shot was inexplicable. As far as mis-reading the flight of a shot goes, there are not many worse examples at this level of the game. The goal was a shattering blow for the home side. The uncertainty it created quickly led to a third Forest goal, and from that point on the home side were desperately chasing, Martinez volleying United's last chance wide in stoppage time. Premier League: Brentford beat Newcastle, Man City held at Palace Difficult and unpopular decisions needed at Man Utd - Ratcliffe Man Utd are a massive club, not massive team - Amorim After the opportunity to rate players has closed, the score displayed represents the average from all the submissions by BBC Sport users. Comments can not be loaded To load Comments you need to enable Java Script in your browser Last Updated 7th December 2024 at 19: 25 Please Note: All times UK. Tables are subject to change. The BBC is not responsible for any changes that may be made. Manager: Ruben Amorim Formation: 3 - 4 - 2 - 1 Manager: Nuno Espírito Santo Formation: 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 Manager: Ruben Amorim Formation: 3 - 4 - 2 - 1 Manager: Nuno Espírito Santo Formation: 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 Premier League All competitions All competitions All competitions Manchester United have won six of their seven Premier League home games against Nottingham Forest, with the exception being a 2-1 loss in December 1994. Following their 2-1 victory in December 2023, Nottingham Forest are looking to win consecutive league games against Manchester United for the first time since April 1992. Manchester United have scored in all 14 of their Premier League games against Nottingham Forest, their joint-best 100% scoring record against an opponent in the competition along with Swansea City. Manchester United have won 3-0 against Leicester and 4-0 against Everton in their last two Premier League home games. They’ve not scored 3+ in three consecutive home league games since February 2021, while they last did so while winning each time in December 2018. Nottingham Forest’s last two Premier League away games have been 3-0 defeats (vs Arsenal and Man City), having won five of seven on the road before this (D2). They last lost three consecutive away league games by a margin of 3+ goals in April 1968, one of which was a 3-0 loss at Manchester United. Manchester United have won their last four home matches in all competitions, scoring at least twice in each match (12 goals). Ruben Amorim has won both of his home games in charge so far – only five managers have won their first three at home with the Red Devils, most recently Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in 2018-19. Ruben Amorim suffered his first defeat as Manchester United manager at Arsenal last time out – the Portuguese has only lost consecutive top-flight matches once in his career, doing so in August 2022 with Sporting CP. Nuno Espírito Santo is bidding to become just the second Nottingham Forest manager to win both of his first two league games against Manchester United after Fred Earp in the 1909-10 campaign. Marcus Rashford scored twice in Man Utd’s 4-0 win against Everton in their last home league game, as many goals as he’d netted in his previous 23 appearances at Old Trafford. His second strike against the Toffees was his 50th home goal in the Premier League. In all competitions, Bruno Fernandes has been involved in 11 goals in his last 10 appearances at Old Trafford for Man Utd (4 goals, 7 assists), having a hand in six goals in his last four in the Premier League (2 goals, 4 assists). He’s never scored or assisted in five in a row in the league at Old Trafford, while Marcus Rashford was the last Man Utd player to do so overall (seven in 2022-23). © 2024 BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Read about our approach to external linking.