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News conferences: Man Utd - Amorim and Fernandes, 13: 30 Tottenham - Postecoglou Champions League reaction: Man City throw away 3-0 lead in draw at home to Feyenoord City boss Pep Guardiola says he did not intend 'to make light'" of self-harm when answering a question about scratches on his face Arsenal claim resounding 5-1 win at Sporting Poll: Who is more likely to win Champions League - City or Arsenal? FA says it is investigating claim, which he denies, that referee David Coote discussed giving a yellow card with a fan Wednesday's matches: Aston Villa v Juventus, Liverpool v Real Madrid & Celtic v Club Brugge (all 20: 00) Get Involved: #bbcfootball, via Whats App on 03301231826 or text 81111 (UK only, standard message rates apply) Jonty Colman, Craig Nelson and Tasnim Chowdhury. Edited by Frank Keogh #bbcfootball, Whats App 03301231826, text 81111 (UK only, standard rates apply) City have been imperious for years. But football is about fine margins. Instead of one Premier League and one Champions League, change only four results in Klopp's Anfield tenure and Liverpool have three Premier League titles and three Champions League victories. There have been times when City's dominance has been razor thin, not all consuming. Liverpool fell off a cliff after they went deep into a quadruple bid. City are suffering a similar four successive title slump. Too many games at an incredible intensity for elite players has consequences, they're not machines. Chad Man City 3-3 Feyenoord Manchester City Manchester City have conceded two or more goals in six successive matches in all competitions for the first time since May 1963 – during a season in which they were relegated from the top-flight. Man City 3-3 Feyenoord Andros Townsend Former England midfielder on Football Daily The defensive frailties, which we have probably not seen before for Manchester City, seem to be popping up in every single defeat or every single game they have played over the last six or seven. It is probably down to individual errors as opposed to the structure they are playing. They are still controlling games like they normally do, it is just those individual errors at the moment which are killing them. #bbcfootball, Whats App 03301231826, text 81111 (UK only, standard rates apply) Football is cyclical. Success breeds complacency. City have become that, as our arch-rivals became after Ferguson. The bubble has burst. Blue since 1967 Man City 3-3 Feyenoord Leon Osman Former Everton midfielder on Football Daily Manchester City's recruitment [during Pep Guardiola's time at the club] has always been fantastic. They were bringing the next player through before you even knew who he was and they were hitting the ground running.

They have not been able to do that of late. They tried with Kalvin Phillips to find someone to replace Rodri - it didn't work. They brought in Savinho this season, who looks a bit like [Riyad] Mahrez but he's not. They brought in [Jeremy] Doku, who I don't think has hit the heights. Matheus Nunes was brought in for huge money - he is still developing but not ready to step into the first team. So they are still demanding a lot of the same old players. For once in his time at Manchester City there does seem to be a bit of a hole or a gap there because all of the recruitment hasn't worked properly. Man Utd v Bodo/Glimt (Thurs, 20: 00 GMT) Some good news for Manchester United and new head coach Ruben Amorim. Centre-backs Lisandro Martinez and Harry Maguire are both in training today ahead of tomorrow's clash with Norwegian side Bodo/Glimt in the Europa League on Thursday night at Old Trafford. Both have struggled with recent injuries and with Amorim set to stick with a three-man defence, having two centre-backs closer to being available again will only boost his options when it comes to team selection. Christian Norgaard's three-match ban, picked up following a red card for "serious foul play" while playing for Brentford against Everton on Saturday, has been overturned, the Football Association has confirmed, external. "Christian Norgaard will be available for Brentford's next three matches following a successful claim of wrongful dismissal, " said the FA in a statement. Brentford won an appeal after Norgaard was sent off for a challenge on Everton goalkeeper Jordan Pickford. Referee Chris Kavanagh produced a red card having watched a replay of the incident on the pitchside monitor in the first half of the goalless draw at Goodison Park. The Denmark midfielder will now be available to play in Saturday's game at home to Leicester, as well as Premier League matches at Aston Villa (December 4) and at home to Newcastle (December 7). Man City 3-3 Feyenoord Simon Stone BBC Sport's chief football news reporter Manchester City's fans booed the Champions League anthem at the Etihad Stadium last night. It has become normal practice and clearly is not going to change. The reasons are extensive. City supporters feel their club has been singled out by Uefa over a number of issues over the years, starting way back in 2011-12 when they ended up being fined more for returning to the pitch late during their Europa League campaign than Porto were in a previous game after Mario Balotelli and Yaya Toure were racially abused. Then fans lost money on pre-booked trips after a Champions League game at CSKA Moscow was ordered to be played behind closed doors due to the behaviour of the Russian club's supporters - only for home supporters who were linked to local junior clubs to be allowed in anyway. On top of that, Uefa fined City €49m for breaking financial rules - and then came a two-year ban from European competition over further financial breaches. This was overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport. All kick-off times in GMT Manchester City 01 Dec: Liverpool v Man City (16: 00) - Premier League 04 Dec: Man City v Nottingham Forest (19: 30) - Premier League 07 Dec: Crystal Palace v Man City (15: 00) - Premier League 11 Dec: Juventus v Man City (20: 00) - Champions League 15 Dec: Man City v Man Utd (16: 30) - Premier League 21 Dec: Aston Villa v Man City (12: 30) - Premier League 26 Dec: Man City v Everton (12: 20) - Premier League 29 Dec: Leicester v Man City (14: 30) - Premier League #bbcfootball, Whats App 03301231826, text 81111 (UK only, standard rates apply) Phil Foden looks a shadow of the player he was last season, he's brought his England form back to his club. I think he needs to pack his fishing gear away and focus on his game. Ian Man City 3-3 Feyenoord Conor Mc Namara BBC Radio 5 Live commentator on Football Daily This isn't what normally happens to Pep Guardiola. In his managerial career, he has never thrown away a three-goal lead. It is the first time it has ever happened. In the Champions League, no team has ever been three goals or more behind going into the 75th minute of a match and not lost that game. Feyenoord have created some Champions League history. As delighted as they will be, and as well as they have taken their goals, the story has to be Manchester City.

This team that used to just show up and intimidate teams the minute they walked out of the dressing room have lost that veneer now. How do you get that back? Pep Guardiola faces an enormous challenge now and of course the context of what comes next on Sunday [with a trip to Premier League leaders Liverpool] couldn't be better timed in terms of the drama. BBC Sounds Pundits Leon Osman and Andros Townsend and BBC Radio 5 Live's Conor

Mc Namara and Ian Dennis join Kelly Cates for the latest episode of the Football Daily podcast - Champions League Debrief. The panel reflect on Manchester City's late collapse at home to Feyenoord and Arsenal's thrash of Sporting, plus interviews with both managers. Liverpool boss Arne Slot also has his say on Mohamed Salah’s future while Jude Bellingham reveals his "smile is back" ahead of Real Madrid's visit to Anfield tonight. Listen to the latest episode of Football Daily on BBC Sounds or stick with us for some of the top lines from the show. #bbcfootball, Whats App 03301231826, text 81111 (UK only, standard rates apply) City's demise was always going to happen. You can't keep those standards up. Even though Pep has signed a new contract, that means nothing in today's game. Jonny, Manchester We will have more on Arsenal's big win in Portugal later on. For now, let's go back to Manchester City, their Feyenoord fiasco and their continued struggles, now six matches without a victory. The Football Association says it is investigating an allegation that referee David Coote discussed giving a yellow card with a fan before a

Championship match. Coote, 42, says he denies the new claims and calls them "false

and defamatory allegations". The referee is already under investigation by the FA and has

been suspended by refereeing body the Professional Game Match Officials Limited

(PGMOL) and European football's governing body Uefa following separate

allegations about his conduct. A new report in the Sun newspaper on Tuesday claimed Coote

exchanged messages with a fan discussing giving a yellow card before and after

a game between Leeds and West Brom in 2019. The exchange refers to a booking Leeds defender Ezgjan Alioski

received in the match from Coote. There is no suggestion of any financial gain

by Coote and the booking is regarded as entirely correct. The contents of the report have not been verified by the BBC. Arsenal Mikel Arteta's Arsenal look to have overcome a dip in form and results, with two big victories following the international break. The Gunners breezed past in-form Nottingham Forest at the Emirates Stadium on Saturday then followed that up with a thumping win at Sporting in the Champions League on Tuesday. Captain Martin Odegaard started both of those matches after returning from injury: Following Tuesday's results, Arsenal sit seventh in the Champions League table, with Manchester City down in 15th and both teams likely to drop lower after Wednesday's results. We want to hear your thoughts on which of the two are more likely to win Europe's elite club competition this season, Arsenal or Manchester City? Have your say via our poll at the top of this page. Sporting 1-5 Arsenal You can watch some of Mikel Arteta's post-match press conference below following Arsenal's brilliant 5-1 win in Lisbon. This video can not be played Players returning to fitness have raised Arsenal's levels - Arteta #bbcfootball, Whats App 03301231826, text 81111 (UK only, standard rates apply) Man City are a system based team where the team is more than the individual players. When a couple of components fail, the system fails and we have 11 blokes wandering around lost. Pep will sort it but it'll take a while. It'll need considerable mental strength from the players. Anon Man City 3-3 Feyenoord Manchester City After their 3-3 draw against Feyenoord, Manchester City are now 15th in the Champions League table. City are on eight points after five matches, they have won two, drawn two and lost one so far in the league. They could be the lowest British club, in the league, if Celtic win against Club Brugge tonight. Arsenal are seventh after their 5-1 win at Sporting. Last Updated 27th November 2024 at 01: 22 Please Note: All times UK. Tables are subject to change. The BBC is not responsible for any changes that may be made. © 2024 BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Read about our approach to external linking.